@EmptyEagle for challenging noctah?

Yeah, you broke the server rules, so his justice was fair.

Oh?

Rules 1, 4, and just spamming is a general rule for discord.

Ah yes, the rule 4....

@Kazemaru What if you lived with people you didn't HATE but you disliked a little and could afford living alone? haha 😄 I am abusing my what if request.

Does anyone work in medicine?

who needs medicine when you can Research Herbs

@ZODD True 😄

@machtyn I would start finding a new place

Dude, if you can't move out, then your only options are to make more money or stay.

Oh @ZODD I did a 4 day fast... but I broke and ate ribs.

LOL

@EmptyEagle Well, I've kind of abused talking about this with everyone but I can easily afford living alone. It would be below 20% my income if I moved out. I am currently living on 7% my income for housing alone and 3% for all other expenses.

I'm just being really indecisive for some reason so I am just going to commit to it in mid october when the first leases become available. If it's giving me this much stress.

If you can still save and live, your sanity is worth more then money. That's my beliefs

@ZODD Yeah, it was bad during days 2-4 and I caved. I am going to be fasting again starting this upcoming wed. It will be intense on Friday but it will allow me to hide from the world saturday and sunday - just read/sleep/feel shitty but then Monday I should be as good as new.

Well Don't Tell me about it

I don't know if the Kavanaugh topic is off limits but this shit is going to have long, long implications. im watching people go to war verbally and physically over this shit

@EmptyEagle yeah... I am saving 75% right now but if I moved out it would be 65-60%.

People who Give away their plans don't Follow Through.

@machtyn however, I would also make some pranks

@Sam Amari Yeah... same dude.

its why Failed at your FAST, its Why you Failed at Moving out.

@machtyn Yea, that a lot dude, your fine. I would do it.

@ZODD Wow... that's actually a really good concept. Can you elaborate on that some more. I think it's counter intuitive but by saying I will do something... I feel like I made progress. Something like that?

@ZODD Well, I haven't failed at moving out yet. I have until January to move out before a lease will have to be signed.

Yeah, ill make a Video on it for you @machtyn . or Maybe i wont.

Oh you don't have to make a whole video.

So instead of goals... show progress?

NO, KEEP YOUR GOALS INTERCONNECTED TO YOURSELF. YOU HAVE TO COMMUNICATE TO YOURSELF. theres no need to tell anyone what your doing, just do it. and the People around you will see the Results.

@Sam Amari You can discuss it more if you'd like.

@ZODD Ah... but what about getting advice on HOW/WHAT to do? is that ok? THEN once a plan is made.. execute and ghost?

You take information, apply it, and see where it goes.
Unless your MAKING A PROMISE to SOMEONE. theres no obligation to disregard anything you say.

you Keep your Goals to yourself.

tbh im surprised there as little Kavanaugh talk in here as ive seen. this is going to IMPACT US ALL FOR YEARS

this is a lot bigger than anything ive seen related to MGTOW in mainstream news, perhaps ever

people are having what seems like irreparable disagreements with their parents, spouses, girlfriends, friends, co-workers over this shit.

so many liberals are just savaging him because he cried and was angry. crying and being angry? ANYONE would cry and be angry in that position. As if no liberal has ever been angry and sad when being accused of such heinous crimes. i cant believe how many people believe this woman. NONE of her friends that she called as witnesses were able to recall the event. liberal are putting huge stock into POLYGRAPH TESTS, something that has been proven to be complete bullshit for decades. this shit is going to draw a HUGE line in the sand, and many of us will permanently lose best friends, family members, and perhaps livelihoods over this shit if we are vocal about it. Sometimes I think it's best to just play my hand close to my chest, not ever let anyone irl know how i feel about it. but it can become utterly exhausting to when everyone feels 100% bold about pointing the finger at a "straight white male" as a horrible violent rapist when there is just simply no evidence

any of us, and i mean any of us in this chat room can have this happen to us. i have had it happen to myself on a small scale. false accusations will be the destruction of the west.

@ZODD I like that idea!

@Sam Amari I 100% agree. I dealt with this multiple times this week. I simply acted like I didn't know much about it and had others feed me their bias about it. Surprisingly, the most liberal coworkers (self proclaimed marxists) said "why isn't there a police report and why isn't this a criminal prosecution?" Now, they were doing it to completely destroy this man's life but they touched on an important aspect and I ran with that to make it look like I agreed with them on it. It's honestly hard to ghost in plain sight sometimes, especially working in technology.

@Sam Amari The one coworker is a 20 year old white kid constantly joking about planning the white genocide. The kid is a total piece of shit and I seriously want to knock some sense into him but I won't do shit about it because I value my job.

like a self hating white kid?

Yes, like a pure mangina.

Everything about him annoys me.

yeah man this is why im contemplating this shit.

i dont know if i can really respect/be around people who literally think this shit. like this is one of my former best friends exact words on this subject:

"
As a white male I have taken every privilege I have for granted. The levels of privilege we have are astounding. Kavanaugh can tell blatant lies (devil's triangle is a drinking game, Brett?), yell, cry, cut off the senators interviewing him, refuse to answer questions and he is called credible.

Ford was calm, collected, respectful and answered every question she was asked to the best of her abilities, but the Senate is going ahead with a vote in less than a week.

We have fucked up. We need to do better than this."

Yeah, it's fucked.

Like, I think it's literally DANGEROUS for me to associate with someone like that at this point.

And he used to be just so fucking different man.

Yes

It's sad but sadly, you can't "convert" people.

Simply let them run their course. Focus on your locus of control.

people need human interaction

it is a basic need. this is backed by science.

Yeah, for sure.

its also a basic need that theres no substitution for face to face interaction.

*basic fact

For sure

i worry that im just gonna become super alone irl if everyone i have ever been friends with is literally as cucked as the quote i posted above. man. fuck this.

yeah...

It's possible that happens.

its sad man

Usually men in the gym or at the shooting range or doing mma are legit.

Or entrepreneurs

they have AA meetings every day every house in every small town in the usa. but even finding a group of like minded men in a massive city like Los Angeles to be friends with irl seems like an impossible task.

like, its easier to find random ass support groups for random diseases then just groups of irl mgtow men

Yeah... for real. Are you in LA? Do you work in tech or something else?

Yeah 😦

um, something else xD

Ok sweet haha

idk man im a dude just having trouble coping with some of this shit lately. i still have social media because its a damned inconvenience not to in my line of work. i posted a mgtowish meme drunk one night and i lost like 20 friends. something which is just a cutesy little innocuous meme on /r/mgtow that we all have a chuckle about is enough to potentially ostracize me in both my social and work environments. shit is nuts.

Yeah, ghosting is so important.

well what do you mean by ghosting

@Sam Amari you know ghosting. when you just stop replying suddenly

stop replying to who? lol

anyway my bad for my whinging

You weren't whinging, man.

It's a legit annoyance.

im also stuck at an internet cafe in a random town so i have a lot of time on my hands

car broke down late last night

Ouch. That sucks.

You traveling for work?

something like that

ok, you're a white man, rule number ....nobody fucking cares about you

literally no one

you are everybodies scapegoat

no one will believe you when you say she is lying

all they are interested in is a confession

anything you say in denial will be used as more proof that you are guilty

eivdence is for suckers

listen and believe

#metoo

MGTOW

so will that ever change?

No

sucks how white people who have had horribly disadvantaged, poor, sex abuse, mental abuse, physical problems lives are always more privileged than the sons of Puff Daddy and LeBron James

Not until a collapse.

haha well that cant be far off