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@NeoRealist read announcements section on this server, if you still have questions, DM me.
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*"Millions have begun to feel like strangers in their own land. They recoil from a popular culture that is saturated with raw sex and trumpets hedonistic values. They see old holidays disappear and old heroes degraded. They see the art and artifacts of a glorious past removed from their museums and replaced by the depressing, the ugly, the abstract, the anti-American. They watch as books they cherished disappear from the schools they attended, to be replaced by authors and titles they never heard of. The moral code that they were raised to live by has been overthrown. The culture they grew up with is dying inside the country they grew up in."* - Patrick J. Buchanan (Death of the West)
How long should we give people to read the book we choose? I was thinking anywhere between 5-10 pages a day. That way if the book is say 300pgs, it'll only take us a month or two tops to finish and wouldn't stress people out who cannot always find time to read.
If The PDFs aren't copyrighted, you can post them.
There's a vote going right now for the first book we choose in <#395779687391035395>
No problem!
Absolutely. Thanks for the suggestion.
Might be a bit easier to read if you posted them individually with the name and author name and perhaps a picture of the book covers.
Thanks, man!
Great contributions, @Zyzz !
@Deleted User yes there are many. Expand the categories to reveal several channels where books are being recommended.
I havent read it yet, that was provided by @Deleted User
Book of the Month discussion -
We will use this channel to discuss weekly what we have read and learned from the Book of the Month.
*"Geographic expansion (which placed us in new environments) and cultural innovation both changed the selective pressures humans experienced. The payoff of many traits changed, and so did optimal life strategy. For example, when humans hunted big game 100,000 years ago, they relied on close-in attacks with thrusting spears. Such attacks were highly dangerous and physically taxing, so in those days, hunters had to be heavily muscled and have thick bones. That kind of body had its disadvantages-if nothing else, it required more food-but on the whole, it was the best solution in that situation. But new weapons like the atlatl (a spearthrower) and the bow effectively stored muscle-generated energy, which meant that hunters could kill big game without big biceps and robust skeletons. Once that happened, lightly built people, who were better runners and did not need as much food, became competitively superior. A heavy build was yesterdayโs solution: expensive, but no longer necessary. The Bushmen of southern Africa lived as hunter-gatherers until very recently, hunting game with bows and poisoned arrows for thousands of years in that region. They are a small, tough, lean people, less than five feet tall. It seems likely that the tools made the man-the bow begat the Bushmen.*"
-10,000 Year Explosion
@Zyzz I think we'll pick 1/5 to start to ensure everyone has a copy. Judging from the poll last night, we will be doing 50 pages weekly.
I will post an announcement in a few hours, just giving more time for people to vote.
I know we'll be discussing this, and I have a bunch more quotes saved for that discussion, but this quote taken from Why We Fight by Guillaume Faye, is just incredible.
[pg. 29] *"The worst wars are the undeclared ones. They break out quietly, like an uneasy breeze, and are the harshest, most deadly.
Europe today faces the greatest danger in her history, a danger threatening the very existence of her civilisation. For she is at war and doesnโt even know it. She may sense the danger, but refuses to see it, burying her head in the sand, like the ostrich, hoping to conjure it away.
We Europeans are rapidly and massively being occupied and colonised by peoples from the South and by Islam. We are subject to Americaโs economic, strategic, and cultural New World Order. The two march hand in hand. We are emasculated by ideologies of decline and by those of a facile optimism, we are menaced by a regression of culture and education toward primitivism and by the faint simulation of prosperity.
Europe is the sick man of the world. Itโs obvious in her demographic decline, in her physiological devirilisation, and in the reigning ideology of ethnomasochism, imposed by politically correct censors and the controlled media. We are gnawed at from within and attacked from without. We are set upon by assailants, occupiers, and collaborators, who make up the majority of the political, media, and intellectual classes, whether of the Right or the Left. The people have yet to see it because their shopping carts are still full. And though everyone may secretly suspect that the war has begun, the majority denies it, because for the moment no one has the courage to fight it. For the moment. . ."*
Also, if you do not have a copy or do not think you will have one by 1/5, send me a message and we'll get you taken care of.
I have thought about this and figured the format could be different for kindle. We could go by chapters to help fix this issue, chapter 3 is 65pgs, we could probably stop there.
Considering the book begins on page 9, it shouldn't be too big of a difference.
Book of the Month has been selected as well as how much we will be reading each week and when we'll be coming together to discuss.
More information in <#393247901545005056>
I have 3/4. Good choices, man!
Paved With Good Intentions by Jared Taylor
Anyone not able to obtain a copy of Why We Fight, please message me and we'll get you taken care of.
Just a reminder, tomorrow is the official start date for reading Why We Fight by Guillaume Faye, if you have already started reading, that's totally fine.
We are asking members to read up until Chapter 3. Then we will begin discussing what we've read Sunday (1/14).
If you have any questions or cannot obtain the book, please send me a direct message.
@everyone
I agree. He did a wonderful job defending his position on nuclear energy
[pg. 56] *"What disturbs our neo-Leftist ecologists is the objective power (military and economic) and independence that nuclear power offers Europe, as well as its technological implications. Thereโs a distinct logic to the Leftโs struggle: weaken the European devil, censure her traditions and ancestral memories, defuse her technological and military power, smother her independence, corrupt her mores, and destroy her ethnic germen through immigration. Its anti-nuclear and propetroleum stances are but part of a concerted, multifaceted strategy to destroy the identity and continuity of European civilisation. The Leftโs environmental concerns and defence of public health are simply crude, oily pretexts."*
*"A serious decline of population appears in the West after Hadrian. . .. . A law of Septimus Severus speaks of a penuria hominum - a shortage of men. In Greece the depopulation had been going on for centuries. In Alexandria, which had boasted of its numbers, Bishop Dionysius calculated that the population had in his time [250 A.D.] been halved. He mourned to see โthe human race diminishing and constantly wasting away.โ Only the barbarians and Orientals were increasing, outside the Empire and within.(50)*
*How did Rome reduce its population? โThough branded as a crime, infanticide dourished. . . Sexual excesses may have reduced human fertility; the avoidance or deferment of marriage had a like effect.โ(51) Adds Durant: โPerhaps the operation of contraceptio n, abortion and infanticide . . . had a dysgenio as well as a numerical effect. The ablest men married latest, bred least and died soonest.โ(52) Christians were having children, the pagans were not: โAbortion and infanticide which were decimating pagan society, were forbidden to Christians as the equivalents to murder; in many instances Christians rescued exposed infants, baptized them, and brought them up with the aid of the community fundโ(53)
Irony of ironies. Today (2002), an aging, dying Christian West is pressing the Third World and the Islamic World to accept contraception, abortion, and sterilization as the West has done... But why should they enter a suicide pact with us when they stand to inherit the earth when we are gone?*
Source: (50) Will Durant, Caesar and Christ (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1944;), p. 666. (51) Ibid.
(52) Ibid.
(53) Ibid.
-Death Of The West
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@everyone
Glad it's working!
@Praetorian @BigBadSaxon - ID @Anthony Sealy - MO youre all set.
@Deleted User & @Envian you guys are all set.
Just added it to my cart. Thanks for the recommendation! @Mark Vandal
You seem really passionate about this book. I think it will be a wonderful addition to my collection. I love books like these.
Please do toot your own horn (I don't think I've ever said this before lmao), I always brag about my book collection. My dream is to have my walls covered with great and rare literature.
YES
We have similar dreams, friend.
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been active in this server the last week. I've come down with the flu - which is making its rounds at my work - but have finished about halfway of Why We Fight, and look forward to discussing its content this Sunday.
For those who don't know, we are reading Why We Fight by Guillaume Faye. We plan to read about 50 pages or so a week and discuss what we've read and learned every Sunday.
If you have any questions or are unable to obtain a copy of the book, please send me a message!
@everyone
Is this something you guys would want to voice chat about or just message within this channel? If we message within the channel, it allows everyone to contribute over time and saves our discussion. Doing it over voice chat may be more enjoyable but then we might lack participation.
Origin of Races is a great start.
I use it more for reference than actual reading. It's like my Bible
Carleton Coon does an excellent job explaining the differences between the races. It is often labeled as racist. So that probably gives you a good idea.
If you want more of a basic introduction to everything. From anthropology to geographical evolution, I would highly recommend The 10,000 Year Explosion
I havent read it yet, but I hear Culture Of The Critique is a great book on why jews are jews.
Im good for whatever time you guys decide. I'm not the best public speaker, is there anyone else that would like to take the lead and I could moderate to keep us on track and offer content and questions
Awesome! It was recommended by another IE member. I haven't read it myself, but it sounds like a great read.
You're all set, @Deleted User
So long as they don't promote violence and aren't in violation of IE's national server rules.
@Zyzz 65 pages. Up until Chapter 3.
Let me check
@Zyzz yeah, that's where we're ending.
@Conway - OK thanks for that haha. We had a miscommunication.
What time would work best for everyone? Anywhere between 8-10 will be fine for me.
@everyone
Wait, what happened to 9?
I was just voting for that one haha
Ooh. No worries
We will be having our discussion on Why We Fight tonight at 8p EST.
I have a few things typed up to discuss, but participation from everyone will be what makes this truly work!
@everyone
We're going to start in about 15-20 minutes.
@everyone
[pg. 15] "America may collude with forces of Islam to divide and weaken Europe for the sake of her global empire,"
[pg. 18] "This mandate, as the world's sole superpower, successor of Rome, would lead it to wage 'humanitarian wars' (Serbia, Kosovo, Iraq, etc.) in the name of its disordering global nomos; to enthrone the abstract, disembodied 'human rights' everywhere at the expense of historic and customary rights; to prevent all regulation of High Finance or Wall Street, and to use its vast powers to uphold the claim that the U.S. economy (and, by implication, the U.S. itself) had evolved, as Greenspan put it in 1998, 'beyond history' (i.e., beyond the realities that once conditioned economic/political behavior); etc.
Against the Philistines of the Marxist Left (who betrayed the European working class for the detritus of an overpopulated Third World) and against the Babbitts of the so-called Right (whose one and only God is Mammon), Faye saw that the anti-European, multicultural, reality-denying forces of Americaโs global economic order would experience (within a decade) not just a long patch of very stormy
weather, when their fantasy projects and hyper-power plans would succumb to certain formerly-denied realities-he saw that their self-generating catastrophes, and the interregnum they would create, were about to give the โresistanceโ another opportunity to throw off
liberalismโs death-embrace ---and, once the chaos passed, inaugurate a Fourth Age of European civilisation."
[pg. 19] "In times of indoctrinated lies and well-bred civil cowardice, the courage to tell the truth mutates into a cardinal sin, as the few who take on the challenge must share the heretics' hopeless fate of banishment."
[pg. 19]ย "Should Europe not succeed in awakening its life-giving instinct for resistance, her peoples and cultures could be hopelessly lost forever."
[pg. 19]ย "But which destruction, which dangers, which death really threatens Europe? Just as the legendary hydra, these threats are like a multi-headed monster. Her decline is evident in the loss of her defining values: the fading away of an attachment to her people; a consciousness of her identity, history, and ethnicity; principles of selection, merit, and excellence; organic democracy; a will to power, an ethics of honor, and a striving to go beyond the human. The dangers, on the other hand, can be seen everywhere: toadying before the watchdog America; consumerism and mercantilism behind the grotesque face of Homo oeconomicus; emasculation and the cult of homosexuality with its various shades of degraded morality, universalism, globalism and mondialism of all shades and with all prayer wheels; individualism and, as the lethal culmination of it all, ethnomasochism and xenophilia of all origins and colours. This mental, spiritual and political degeneration into death knows many languages, names and forms, and then, at the very end, it rips its mask off: the demographic decline of the White peoples, the secret implantation of Islam -which will carry out its merciless assault once its time has come - and finally the planting of a genetic bomb, whose delayed destination will inevitably lead to racial chaos and destruction.
Contrary to the suicidal opinions held by the sorcerersโ apprentices of the multi-racial heresies, the analysis made by all experts on immigration, demographics and economics are symptomatic of an ever widening gulf opening up between the clear vision of the scientists and the dementia of the dysfunctional political class. Herwig Birg, for example, the manager of the Institut fur Bevolkerungsforschung und Sozialpolitik of the University of Bielefeld, gets straight to the point: โLittle by little we are moving this country towards the Second or Third World. I say this with conviction... Germany has much to lose - a culture admired around the world and a great prosperity which depends on this culture, and which will dissipate as the mass immigration from the Third World continues.โ"
[pg. 20] "Fate's irony surpass the most horrific scenarios we could have imagined as the guests of yesterday mutate into the new lords of the land, and who then take charge over society."
[pg. 22] "The willingness to redefine our terms thus implies a mental readiness to begin a counterattack against the political correct tyranny's aggressions and intimidations, these being nothing but a ruse by an enemy who knows full well that the more you pervert the language of a people, the more the spirit will be distorted and its resistance weakened.
[pg. 24] "We possess, however, the highest trump - the trump of trumps, which those who are attempting to erase all traces of their own blood do not possess and never can possess. We know where we are going because we know where we came from. We possess the memory of the history that is also the memory of the mythos of our ethnos, the consciousness of an unbroken line of ancestors from whom we have inherited the most valuable of all privileges: namely, the privilege to be like them."
[pg. 24] "The time is short! The challenge is huge, yet it is from our enemies' folly that wisdom is born, from this will that life is passed on, and from this despair that hope rises: for only at the very epicentre of danger does that which saves continue to grow - provided one knows, believes and wants it."
[pg. 29] "The worst wars are the undeclared ones. They break out quietly, like an uneasy breeze, and are the harshest, most deadly.
Europe today faces the greatest danger in her history, a danger threatening the very existence of her civilisation. For she is at war and doesnโt even know it. She may sense the danger, but refuses to see it, burying her head in the sand, like the ostrich, hoping to conjure it away.
We Europeans are rapidly and massively being occupied and colonised by peoples from the South and by Islam. We are subject to Americaโs economic, strategic, and cultural New World Order. The two march hand in hand. We are emasculated by ideologies of decline and by those of a facile optimism, we are menaced by a regression of culture and education toward primitivism and by the faint simulation of prosperity.
Europe is the sick man of the world. Itโs obvious in her demographic decline, in her physiological devirilisation, and in the reigning ideology of ethnomasochism, imposed by politically correct censors and the controlled media. We are gnawed at from within and attacked from without. We are set upon by assailants, occupiers, and collaborators, who make up the majority of the political, media, and intellectual classes, whether of the Right or the Left. The people have yet to see it because their shopping carts are still full. And though everyone may secretly suspect that the war has begun, the majority denies it, because for the moment no one has the courage to fight it. For the moment. . ."
[pg. 34] "We should also be wary of certain spiritual, metaphysical, and, so-called โphilosophicalโ tendencies. Wary especially of those impostors who call themselves โtheologiansโ in the confines of their office... though a spiritual renewal is absolutely necessary - for the sake of Europeโs rebirth - and against materialistic narcissism, which is the primal cause of her present tragedy.
Spirituality is not spiritualism. It isnโt something to be decreed or instrumentalised, like a computer program. Iโm a devoted reader of Evola, particularly of his extraordinary political and social-philosophical texts, but take heed of โEvolianismโ (and the even more dangerous โGuรฉnonismโ) that turns away from practical, tangible issues. Reflection must serve action and is not to be confused with metaphysical tautologies. I particularly address this warning to my Italian friends.
Distrust is no less warranted in respect to that artificial and instrumentalised โpaganismโ that threatens to succumb to either a New Age disconnected from any worldly struggle, or worse, in the name of a badly understood polytheism, to xenophilia and a catastrophic โLove of the Other" I should add that I have...
long considered myself a pagan, fully pagan, allied to traditional Catholicism, and a friend of Hinduism, but a fierce adversary of the desertโs totalitarian monotheisms.ย
A similar prudence is needed in respect to Catholic charismatic spirituality, with its enervating mysticism, and particularly its destructively pacifist dismissal of ethnicity and the will to power.
We need, in a word, to be alert to demobilising mysticisms, to a pretentious but hollow intellectualism, to easy refuge in a 'spirtuality' or 'philosophy' whose attitudes, postures, and loopholes are ultimately tangential to the resistance.
[pg. 37] "Contrary to the prevailing belief, it's not economic or military power, nor its social constitution or political independence, that in the last instance determines the longevity of a people or civilisation. These elements are extremely important, but they are part of the superstructure. The base of everything is biocultural identity and demographic renewal."
[pg. 38] "Today, as night descends on them, European peoples need to consciously see themselves as a people, for they have less than a century to save their germen and their civilisation. The Twenty-first century will be the decisive century, specifically its early decades. More than ever, the old military adage - 'vanquish or die!' - assumes its pertinence. If the generation of native Europeans which turns 20 between 2000 and 2010 doesn't act, everything will be lost - forever - as the spirit of those who built the great cathedrals is finally extinguished. East Europeans won't even be able to aid their brothers in the West, for they too are sick."
pg. 38] "The key issues facing the future won't be about financing start-ups, finding a place in the political system for women, or looking out for the 'gay community', but rather about determining the outcome of the coming clash between Europe and the Islamic world colonising her: will Europeans remain the majority of the European population; will they be able to check the dramatic degradation of the Earth's environment, etc?"
[pg. 39] "Why do we fight? We don't fight for 'the cause of peoples', because the identity of every people is its own concern, not ours, and because history is a cemetery of peoples and civilisation. We fight only for the cause of our own people's destiny. Our political activities - the most quotidian cultural or metapolitical, the most down-to-earth, the most humble activities, even in the formulation of our practical programs - are guided by the imperative of all Grand Politics: that is, by the struggle for the heritage of our ancestors and the future of our children."
[pg.39] "European civilisation is gangrened with the cosmopolitanism that comes with the Western system, which it helped create, as Nietzsche saw in an earlier phase of its decay. Europeโs destiny in this sense is tragic.ย
The main cause of her decline is the maturation of those Eighteenth century ideas of equality and individualism that came at the expense of our communal, national, and ethnic consciousness. Another cause is the secularisation of Judaeo-Christian universalistic and egalitarian - values. A third is the materialistic frenzy constitutive of the bourgeois spirit.
Europeans as such are themselves responsible for the ills afflicting them: the ills of the declining birth rate, Third World and Islamic colonisation, deculturation, American domination, strategic feeblemindedness, etc. They have, in effect, allowed their enemies to pollute their spirit and corrupt their body."
pg. 41] "Far from becoming a โplanetary civilisation: a global village, the planet is today being organised into competing ethnic/identitarian blocs. The mixing of cultures and the abolition of identities are not part of the Twenty-first-centuryโs project. India, China, Black Africa, the Arab-Muslim or Turkish-Muslim world, etc., are affirming their identities, tolerating neither a colonising immigration nor a cultural mรฉlange on their soil. Only our pseudo-European elites defend the dogma of a โmixed planetโ, which is pure illusion."
[pg. 52] "Islam strives for revenge and conquest. The United States - logically from its geostrategic perspective - endeavours to neutralise Europe, whose unification threatens American hegemony and Economic interests on the Continent. To divide Europeans in order to better rule them, the U.S. endeavours to foster war and discord, it favours Islamic immigration, it seeks to prevent a European alliance with Russia and the Slavs, it keeps us under its military tutelage, and it forces us to open our markets without reciprocating, all the while pro-claiming that itโs our protector: this is the logic of Americaโs perverse hegemony in Europe, which the Europe of nation-states, no less than the Europe of Maastricht and Amsterdam, is unable to defend herself against, because she lacks the will to do so."
[pg. 53] "The disaster of the oil tanker Erika in 1992 reminds us that petroleum energy is the most polluting in the world. The pseudo-ecologists, however, reserve their thunder for nuclear energy, the least polluting form of energy! The reason: oil is a pillar of American hegemony and the financial basis of the Muslim states. Nuclear power, moreover, would make Europe energy independent, which is seen with a jaundiced eye. There exists, as such, an objective alliance between Trotskyist Greens, American interests, and the Muslim states."
[pg. 54]ย "Fossil fuels (petroleum, coal, and gas) emit millions of tons of carbon and nitrogen oxides into the atmosphere, which cause cancer (more than the mythical radiation) and diminish the ozone layer, responsible for the greenhouse effect, which raises temperatures and causes climatic disturbances. In France alone, nuclear energy avoids emitting 78,000 tons of dust, 1.1 million tons of nitrogen dioxide, 2 million tons of sulphur dioxide, and 337 million tons of carbon dioxide, the gases that are the most polluting and the most destructive to health. Thanks to her nuclear capacity, France has reduced 70 percent of the polluting gases that come from electrical production, while the other 30 percent are emitted by gas-based motors and cars, which is more than all the waste produced by her industry! Thanks to nuclear energy, France (whose electrical production is the most advanced in the world) pollutes the atmosphere less than any of her EU partners: 6.9 tons of carbon dioxide per inhabitant, against the European average of 8.15 tons and the German average of 11 tons."
[pg. 56] "What disturbs our neo-Leftist ecologists is the objective power (military and economic) and independence that nuclear power offers Europe, as well as its technological implications. Thereโs a distinct logic to the Leftโs struggle: weaken the European devil, censure her traditions and ancestral memories, defuse her technological and military power, smother her independence, corrupt her mores, and destroy her ethnic germen through immigration. Its anti-nuclear and propetroleum stances are but part of a concerted, multifaceted strategy to destroy the identity and continuity of European civilisation. The Leftโs environmental concerns and defence of public health are simply crude, oily pretexts."
[pg. 59] "Everyone talks about the โnew economyโ that is, the economy based on multimedia telecommunications and information services provided by the Internet, which have supposedly ushered in a second Golden Age. This magical talk, with its euphoric sensibility, simply reiterates the old progressive, scientistic illusions. In fact, itโs just another neo-liberal imposture, whose modernist hegemony is presently coming to an end. For the โnew economyโ may well culminate in disaster.
The internet and the 'new technologies' are no โrevolutionโ, but a simple evolution and, undoubtedly, one of great fragility. Founded on the globalisation of trade, techno-science, and the instantaneity of informatron, the โnew economyโ is actually more than a century old.
Online sales, for instance, are only an improvement of the older forms of mail order sales introduced around 1850, and correspond to no structural change. Similarly, not the Internet, nor multimedia cell phones, TV networks, smart cards, the general โinformationisationโ of society, or genetic engineering represent a fundamental structural change, but are, rather, the โelaborationโ of already existing things. For none of these so-called new technologies are comparable to the real upheavals, the real techno-economic metamorphoses, that occurred between 1860 and 1960 - and completely revolutionised life and society - with internal combustion engines, electricity, the telephone, the telegraph, the radio (far more revolutionary than television), the railroad, the airplane, penicillin, antibiotics, etc. The new technologies are behind us! There has been no fundamental innovation since 1960: computers have only been reconceived, and made faster and cheaper than what already existed. In contrast, the automobile, antibiotics, telecommunication, and air travel were authentic revolutions making possible things that had previously been impossible."
@John O - thanks for joining us man!
thanks for joining us, @DCViking
Thanks for joining us, @Marseille
Nice talking to you man, thanks for contributing!
Just wanted to thank everyone again for making tonight's discussion successful. I look forward to next Sunday.
@everyone
Looking forward to next weekend!
@Helbrecht - WA it's already concluded. We'll have another one next Sunday.
No worries, man. We'll have another next Sunday.
We will continue to read around 50 pages per week. This week we will read up until page 118 in the metapolitical dictionary. Stop on the word "discipline."
Again, we will meet Sunday at a time that works best for everyone.
@everyone
@SamanthaM, you're all set.
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