The main demonstration will involve setting up a podium in front of the General Lee statue for the speakers and then forming a white bloc barrier or square around the entire statue + podium. The larger, outer formation will be progressively cuckier as it moves out meaning the the inner group and square around the VIPs should consist of all alt-right activists. @everyone

And given that they know we're coming, we'll all need as many people as possible to be there right when the park opens.

When does Lee Park open?

Everyone in the inner circle must also be explicitly aware that antifa/surj will try to get through. At the last event [REDACTED] walked right up to the circle and our guys like cleared a path for him. I walked over to make sure he wasn't going to do anything funny. Our guys need to be ready to hold position and make it so that we are a solid barrier to stop antifa from coming through.

Shield wall?

The carolina guys have been talking about getting shields...haha

So that may be possible

I already have one. Completely game

TWP has shields

Both TWP symbols and celtic crosses

Anyone have stencils? Thinking of getting that shield and would want to put something on it and would use then when I arrive. If not ill figure it out beforehand.

Shield wall sounds delightful

Did you guys build these shields you have or purchase them?

@MatthewHeimbach Those new shields my cohost sent you should come in handy again....

If we are planning on doing a shield wall I suggest learning how to actually fight in a shield wall. Watch some SCA videos on the subject.

https://youtu.be/s41UGrfH_x0

Start with these. Go through all three parts. They have incredibly good tips that you won't get from studying riot shield tactics

I will construct a Huwite power shield

Make sure you find time to practice what you learn before the event. Our local group will be doing lots of training before Charlottesville.

Absolutely

Vanguard Texas and Louisiana have shields with our logo painted on

Check out the Demonstration_tactics tag. There have been a discussion about shields there.

@Heinz - MI Agree. We need the same for our Atl group

@Albrecht von Wallenstein the gym I go to has a week of free membership with no conditions. It also has a boxing area with punching bag being set up. If any of you atl guys are interested in that I could easily meet there

@MatthewHeimbach what are your shields made out off? Vanguard makes our Shields out of Baltic birch... I've thrown a hatchet at mine pretty durable stuff

#1300optics

I know I'm not the only one thinking we need a large, synchonized dance routine.

am-I-right?!

^^ something the women SHOULD coordinate

@Andrew-- Have you met with any of our people in Atlanta?

@Albrecht von Wallenstein I'll DM you

@Scott Terry I have an embarrassing level of fondness for synchronized dance routines 😂

https://twitter.com/NotPaxDickinson/status/873676670934429697

good thread

we need 4 lines of people just smoking blunts

Pot is for nogs

@everyone We need to do a march along with the rally. Should we do it on the Downtown Mall (which is closed to traffic) or should we march through the streets the way they did in Berkeley?

Blocking streets gives PD a reason to (((Shut it down!)))

If you march on the streets, get a permit first

I think the downtown mall would be better because that is where a lot of the mob incidences have been happening

The mall. The photos will be better if they have landmarks in the background.

It will get very expensive very fast if we start asking to close down streets in advance. We'd have to pay off duty police officers

@Dreiiaa (TWPVA) There's no doubt we should march through the Downtown Mall. My only wonder is whether we should keep it contained there

The downtown mall is public and the police wouldn't be able to remove us without violating our First Amendment rights

Decision: For now we will not plan to march through the street and block traffic. But if Antifa does we should be able to confront them about it

Is there any way the march through streets or mall can be an unofficial thing?

Like, oh the rally is over now everyone enjoy the mall and the bars

We marched last time with no permits in 2 rows down the sidewalk with runners in safety vests stopping traffic long enough for us to cross.

Let's not street march and look like assholes. Sidewalks is one thing, but straight through the streets like they did a few weeks ago for the 'community defense' March was awful (Antifa)

These fools had babies and children in the streets dragging banners over cars blocking their view and such. Too bad the civilians didn't just make new speed bumps for some of these scum.

They really do have a disgusting culture

Yeah. What is with the black and white Aesthetics?

Larping as being members of the old Civil Rights Era.

Yep.

Women are you trying to dictate tactics again?

There are women here?

lol. never know where to invite my grrl.

The Downtown Mall march will be unannounced to the public but we'll coordinate it among the leadership and let folks know prior to the event

Pink names = women

yeah i invited my gf and hopefully she does not have to work this day, requested it off and they asked why so she actually told them ... hopefully goes over ok.

i dont think bringing your 3d's to this is a good idea

IE will have a 3D squad.

if we're anticipating violence, id keep the woman you love away

^^ why would you bring women to an event where there will be known hostilities...?

1. We don't actually expect violence. That's just larping. Antifa only instigates when they have a massive numerical advantage, which they will not, here.

2. The womenfolk have their own cordon, far behind the men. They will be fine.

I think that Vanguard and the DRW have a similar view on 3Ds at inflammatory events

Bringing women to a protest/rally where we expect violence is fucking retarded.

Keep them in the rear.

How can you not expect violence when this was a major loss to them before and they have more time to plan now. They've been proven to be violent at large events

Also, even if you aren't expecting violence, you should prepare for it. Underestimating Antifa's will to escalate is retarded as well.

I'm trying to figure out how expecting violence is larping?

Is everything larping these days?

@Heinz - MI That's what I was saying. They will be the rear, as I understand.

Maybe I am mistaken.

In which case, someone else is tactically mistaken.

You realize the violence can happen anywhere around the event?

Like a parking lot or something before and after the event

Obviously. Travel in groups, always.

After is probably the most dangerous time.

Okay so this is still an unnecessary risk

If we are bringing women, they should be kept within a perimeter.

Unnecessary? It's a cost-benefit analysis.

@Heinz - MI That is my current understanding.

It better be true, for their sake.

And ours.

We need a map of the location we will be at. If this is just a standard rally where we will be in one place, we can easily set a perimeter.

Beyond that, we need to figure out parking details.

It's a march. Need a bubble to shield them.

If need be, we can organize a shuttle system for people that park far away.

We will have to. I'm sure we will exceed standard parking.

Also, we will need detailed and planned routes from where we park, to wherever we are going that EVERYONE follows.

And showing up early

Last time at CVille 1.0 a lot of people left in small 4-5 person groups. It wasn't a big deal then, but there will be a much stronger antifa presence at this one.